Fantastic WorldsDiscussion
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137864May 27, 2005 8:32am
Who you are?
What you are seeking to achieve in life?
Especially if it is to do with creating fantasy
Worlds/worlds in general/computer-games/movies/anime.

Here, while in this sacred forum we refer to the rich, deep,complex masterpieces that can spawn 1000's of movies/bboks/anime/drawings as
Worlds (with a capital W). We are not talking about planets here, and always remember that books and movies are merely small windows into infinite worlds that have no end...have no limits. They are real, we can even participate in them ourselves if a "Window" is opened up on a world in the form of an online game...who is to say what is real, and what is imaginary? Major achievements made while playing a game makes you more effective at controlling your environment in that World...how is this different from the World that we call 'reality', making money in the
'real world' enables us to do more things...it is exactly the same in a game. Happiness can be achieved by spending time in Worlds, either making them/watching/reading or playing them, you can feel as happy as you can, even greater than in your 'real life'...I love my 'real life', the people, scenery, creatures, history and the amazing graphics/artwork...
'real life' is like the worlds that can be created, you can spend time in any world you want, as long as you earn enough to eat there is no problem.
Our physical-self depends on doing things in the 'real world' for survival.
Meet those needs...and then meet the needs of your mind, in the World of the 'real' or the many great Worlds of the fantastic/magical.

::::::::Terms you will come across, and are encouraged to use::::::::
**World/s**
(with a capital W, movies/books etc... are "Windows into these Worlds)
**Window/s** (capital W)
(Movies, games, anime, books, drawings...they let you glimpse parts of the world...a few hours spent watching a few of the characters do things in certain places within the world...
looking in on a massive god-beast basically)
Feel free to suggest others as you think fo them, the aim being to be able to communicate with more clarity/speed.


Tell us what you hope to achieve out of participating in this fine forum for like-minded individuals...
even clones, we don't discriminate ;-)

What projects are you working on?
(don't give too much away, but tease us)

What are some of your favourite 'Worlds' already in existence?

What skills are you working on to help you achieve your goals of translating your ideas for a 'World' into somehting that can be enjoyed by all, something that wil grant you immortality.

Long after you and I have passed, we will be remembered by the great things we do. Not the small ones.
J.R.R.Tolkien would not be known about today if it were not for his world..."Middle Earth". This world was translated into book form, and then into several movies (excluding the earlier cartoon ones), a world is purely made up of ideas, it can be entirely in your head...the few ideas about a potential world could turn into a rich and detailed one later on.
When we write novels, produce movies & Anime or draw a picture of a small part of a world...all we are doing is showing people a mere *blink* of the entire world...a world can spawn 1000's of books and still, only 0.00000001% of it will have been exposed for all to see.

Most of the 'richness' and 'depth' of a World lies in the fact that you will keep adding to it, improving it and new characters/lifeforms/locations will appear in it...it will have it's own history and the present-day in your world right now will oneday be part of it's history.
A World is an amazing, magical thing-
nothing compares to what we do...nothing. Actors are only remembered if the worlds in which they acted are still remembered, they only played a SMALL part in the World...the creator dreamed it all. Sporting legends are forgotten,
royalty forgotten...entire countries forgotten, whole languages discarded...If the world that you create is great enough it will be remembered forever, you will be remembered. You could become far better remembered as Napoleon (I know his name, and some vague facts). Great worlds in the form of film, novel etc... motivate fans to research you...
everything they can find about you.
The world of "MiddleEarth" wil be widely known for an indefinite amount of time...if LOTR movie gets outdated...a new one will be made, the books will never date, truly great worlds...immortal Worlds,
made by flesh and blood...the same stuff you are made out of.




Immortality is only a World away.

AtreusMay 27, 2005 11:00pm
I like to write adult fantasy. I am into D/s (domination and submission) and bondage. I love Arthurian Legends, stories to do with dragons, knights, damsels in distress (or no dress), warrior maidens, slave girls, chivalry, romance, love and good triumphing over evil empires or some such thing. I also like wizards, elves, hobbits, dwarves, faeries and all the evil critters they have to contend with. There is a particular fantasy I would like to write about one day and that is the adventures of the Lady Rapture in the Realm of the Red Dragon. At the moment I have other career things in the way of my hobby fantasy things but will start one day before too long.

137864May 31, 2005 9:51am
I write stories, draw pictures and list detailed information about the World that I'm creating (there are several).
I like creating Worlds first, rather than writing a book and having the World be created from that. When you have basically finsihed a World it allows you to write books based in it (at any time period which means that your World could actually be many different Worlds all at once, since a World can also be looked at as a 'timeline').

Once I have a finished World thne I can create some Windows/books/anime/paintings of locations and characters for later sale.
(Completed up to a time I like, e.g.10 major time-zones in the past, times when the World is radiacally different from any other time, e.g. Old Middle-Earth/Age of the Worms/Sauron comes to power...again/After the destruction of the Ring/
Tolkien could have contined the World past this point.

Some of the timezones in my latest World are harsh, some peaceful.
(I never really 'finish' a World, just stop developing it for a while)
Something that I can do is write novels that start at the end of a peaceful timezone and move into darkness, ending on a good...or bad note.

Whenever I feel like I should write a novel, or work on producing an Anime film based in one of my Worlds...I find that I enjoy creating the Worlds themselves much more, for now at least.

I like making people feel things, sadness, joy, contentment, satisfaction, anger (at a fictional character or situation...not me ;-), and confused.

Some of my favourite mythical creatures:
(some of which feature in some of my Worlds, but usually with a little...something extra)

Dragons, Intelligent-fire (one of my creations...you don't want to know how nasty this stuff is), sentient carnivourous plants/poisonous, Liches or very very nasty magical beings, golems, Elf-like creatures, living suits of armour etc... I take inspiration from any place I find it...obviously :-)

This is what I do in life, it is what I want to do...and have done.
I want to create many films/anime and write many novels set in my Worlds, also the creation of comuter games and a MMORPG or 2.
I desire to be remember for my creations, and to have made a great difference to the world by doing so. To be rich, in mind and wealth.

I want to change what the majority of people think they have to do for their entire lives...work.
I dream of a world in which everyone has the choice of participating in online games, (and helping to develop the online world further). I want gaming to become a widely accepted Olympic sport, for 1000's of games.
I want to create an international airhocked competition league...people should be able to compete at airhockey in every city, of every country and do so for a living if they were passionate enough. (I love airhockey).
Gaming for a living should be an option, there will also be a TV chanell (free to air) that allows viewers to control a camera ingame, and follow different players around (in my MMORPG).

Grand dreams...indeed. Everything is possible.
who knows...I may only end up producing anime, and a MMORPG
(online game, massively multiplayer online RPG).


The thing I love about creating Worlds/games/anime...is that it is the only way you can be a 'wizard' or a god, creating magical things from nothing. There is nothing like it, it's truly the best thing...
better than sex.

Sell your World
/turn it into books and movies:
You're a legend, remembered forever as a great man, you can become rich and almost always live a happy life (because you do what you love)

I'm a guy, and we can't sell the other thing :-P
Nor would it make us rich/give us immortality in the hearts and minds of millions of people. it would not make us remembered and quite honestly...creating a World can give a lifetime of happiness, every hour of the day. Sex lasts only 6 hours, and possibly 12 if you and yours have a weekend free. The word 'sex' was meant in a loving/tender way and quite honestly...if anyone has a problem with me saying it then they have some serious psyhchological issues that they need to work out in regard to their relationship with the word/concept of sex. For those who are fine with it, I salute your maturity.


Welcome Atreus, you definiely belong here :-)
comeon everyone else, introduce yourself and your way of life/interests/life goals and possibly your interest in writing/drawing/producing films/anime and/or creating Worlds.


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BStablerMay 31, 2005 10:23am
I'm stumbling my way around different projects right now including a story about an unfortunate encounter between a pharmacist and a dragon (the minor project) and creating a race of halfbreed mercenaries ( the major project).

In addition to that I'm constantly striving to effect minor changes in the parts of the mundane world that are under my control--a fancy way of saying gardening. But before you laugh, we have already had a gnome take up residence amongst the hostas.

Lastly, I hope to continue my involvment in the local school's drama department helping them suspend disbelief.


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DudymasJul 31, 2005 12:16am
I'm horribly mental... or, more exactly (but not enough, I'm afraid), cathartic.

I seek to know myself better, and in doing so, know/understand everyone else that much more. I believe the worlds I'll relate to the best are those of the mind and it's borders with consciousness, subliminal, and the fantastic, inbetween hybrids of the two. I also hate filling things with too much multisyllabic and pretentious sounding BS, so I'll (try to) stop there.

I guess I also want to find out all there is about different dimensions and physically different worlds purely on my own... only to be shared with those who ask or listen well.

I believe immortality is in losing sense of time... that some moments of my life were so great and awesome and involving, that they seemed to last forever during that moment and in a way are still happening... still recurring.

I'm also looking for someone to draw with... compose with... I seek companionships and friendships, but I want them to happen naturally. I already think deeply about being a father one day... how I might raise my children or what ring I'd think of buying my wife (of course, you always are smart to leave room for her input... I know that all to well now). I guess I started all this when I used to sit in the grass all day long as a child and daydream, imagine, and generally see how far I could stretch my mind... 'see' how closely I could magnify a grain of sand in my minds eye. All the time, the only fun parts when I was a child... the more I explore my mind now, the more demons I find... the more horrific things. The more I find I only fear myself. So I'm looking for people... other worlds to escape into.

I guess my imagination is a little too strong here, but I guess you get what I'm really saying. As much as I hate to say it... words fall short. My only real goal in life is to live until I die. How I define those two things... live... die.... that's something that changes all the time. That's something that's liable to emotions, feelings, situations, everything.

Above all... I end up seeing so much of my good sides in others, I tend to like more people than I feel comfortable talking about... I guess it's weird, but when you start to really see the similarities, you feel like family surrounds you... but that's about as far as it goes in the positive direction. The more I journey, the more I find everyone has so many similar dreams. I think many of my dreams are crushed when they turn out to not only be unoriginal... but merely fodder for advertising and leverage in quarrels and relationships.

I generally right now am trying to escape the nightmares I have everyday when I see more of who I am. I'm terribly afraid now of every step... the further I see how savagely selfish, conceited, and generally rotten I am... the less I want to touch anything and the more I wish I could escape myself.... but all my understanding and training tells me... if we've all been everywhere else in our minds....... I guess I'll be one of the first to dig in the manure. But now I begin to find even that isn't true. Now all I have left to explore is what creativity might generate. I grow more disillusioned every day, but more impassioned by the hoi poloi surrounding me... somehow finding reason to live over my own dismal cathartic lifestyle.

Yeah... but as I gaze into the future, I see nothing worse, nor better... only a world that is still uniquely my own... still rottenly the same as everyone else's.

Okay.... let's wrap this up with creating worlds. I do it as part of my cathartic, empty lifestyle. I find emotions I haven't understood yet, or feelings that surprise me, and I exploit them in tales. I find things that people pivot on... things that make people intensely emotional, and I try to understand them through my imagination mixxed with real life elements. Some are very realistic while others are fantastical. The things I come to find about myself are hard to describe. I can only say each time I find something new, it's like finding a new room to light up... discovering another way you can understand people better... and all the more, they are turning me off to myself and my selfish ways... but that's where the heartbreak comes in.

I guess I could be sharing too much, but then, who reads this anyways? It won't mean that much to you unless you do the same thing.

I guess if anyone knows of a program that allows people to draw together online on an open canvas with paint tools in realtime, I'd desperately want to join in. I have a lot I still want to know about drawing styles, about people, and about sketching anyways.

I want to make a world focusing on a man/woman who draws. I also am thinking up a world about a creature in general who creates for a living, and survives purely on creative energies. But then, I guess that's too barebone, too idealistic... I doubt either will truly fit those lines... it all unfolds with time... to rush it is like wetting the paper so it tears instead.....

137864Aug 3, 2005 4:11am
I have encountered such an online program, it was many months ago and I didn't bookmark it or anything.
Keep searching for it, for it exists.


What you speak of it delicious, it did make me happy to get a glimpse of who you are...it's rare that people show you anything of who they really are, at least not so honestly.
thankyou.


I'm personally still figuring out what "life" is.
I would like to be immortal...and know it right now, I sometimes feel as if all I will ever do/achieve will be for nothing if I cease to exist after I die.

I want to be able to watch others enjoying my creations, my games,
my films.


The true reason I draw:
It is magical.
You are taking what is private and turning it into a tangible form.
You can save a moment in time, and especially the emotions you felt...how you felt about something.

Dudymas,
if 1000 people have the same dream as you...and you are passionate about that dream then please achieve it. It's quite likely that the other 1000 won't see it through, or do as a good a job as you could.



I know what it is like to be me,
interesting, painful, wonderful, happy, blissful, exciting, dangerous...sometimes all of them in one day.

That is boring to me, I have experienced my view of the world for many years...

I wan't to hear about how other see and experience life...who they are and what their dreams are.


Who else here NEVER wants to have another conversation about mundane things like the weather? ;-)



I would love to understand more, about you Dudymas and about anyone else willing to share.


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DudymasAug 5, 2005 10:41pm
if 1000 people have the same dream as you...and you are passionate about that dream then please achieve it. It's quite likely that the other 1000 won't see it through, or do as a good a job as you could.

Wow... thanks a ton for the great encouragement, as I'll agree with your reasoning., though I'm still wondering how to live some of my dreams.

Being immortal... I guess I'd never know. Right now, most of my dreams involve peace... which means many of them involve death. I don't see how I could value immortality or anything else without being calm.

Heck... you're probably more sure of what you want than I am if you can at least reason that immortality will allow you to see others reaping of your good will efforts and acts of creativity.

I can't even be sure of such. I'm of course, rather young still. I guess that's what always gets people too. I try so hard to understand myself but I only succeed in talking and communicating better, and while that's great, I only communicate a joy about knowing others, when in fact I'm a very sad person. I end up scaring most people who ever get to know me because I'm such a happy guy to them, always cracking jokes, always goofing off, when in fact I'm so despondent from my soul and body that I'm unsure of where my conscious self fits.

Clarity grows each day, but once again, it scares the heck out of me. I've been working harder on some of the worlds I've wanted to illustrate. Every day, when I walk and I listen to music, I daydream about stuff I'd draw, music I'd compose or remix, or else sequential art I'd create.

Drawing is definitely magical. So is music, but I know most people don't connect that deeply with sound. Most of us are so visual that it takes someone special to compose truly creative music.

The first time that I drew a face that looked alive... I was breathtaken. I couldn't believe it was doable with my own two hands, but it was. And it's always so striking... making a moving figure, a meaningful collage, emotional creature, and so many other possibilities... things that you'd think you couldn't work out with only light and darkness on such a thin, fragile medium. I've talked with all sorts of people on neuroscience now and nothing is quite as amazing as how the mind takes something and gives it life... connects so much with it. The tags are so amazingly deep, and yet the superficial things become completely real...

After looking at the brain for so long, I wonder if humanity was built for anything other than creating and love.

I never understand anything else that people try to do that don't fall under those two things.

137864Sep 18, 2005 6:10am
"I end up scaring most people who ever get to know me because I'm such a happy guy to them"

Some people will be friends with you, some will only accept being friends with the 'you' that they have labeled you as, the 'you' that can never change in their mind.

My mind is something I'm constantly trying to understand, I've made a commitment to mastering it and growing/developing myself into much more than I am today, but mainly understanding myself.
That's tough to do, those that think they are in compelete control of their minds, are driving the 'car' so to speak are more lost than any.

The first step to achieving something is admiting you want it and that you don't currently have it, then you take steps towards it, gradually or fast (your choice).

I want to understand reality, life, myself, others, dreaming.
these things are very interesting to me, especially my own mind...dam it's tricky , the part that conrols my emotions is the part I have the least control over, I have gradually been getting more understanding of it...
one thing that is VERY important:

if you have negative people in your life (anyone who complains constantly etc...) remove them from your life, tell them you don't want to talk to them, or you will become more and more like them subtly over time.
Surround yourself with positive, useful and loving people, people you want to become more like...there are billions of people here, why be around a negative person for the sake of having one more friend or contact.

When you are feeling down, it can often be diet, sleep or dehydration,
or you arn't gettign what you want or going in the direction you want.
I've stopped eating sugar because of this, it's a major influence on our moods-that's something I do, if it works for you then do it.




We were built for creating and love, very true.


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DudymasSep 19, 2005 12:49pm
I've let your words soak in a bit.

I must say, yes, eating too much is a problem for me... I'm not overweight at all, but when I eat a lot, my high metabolism kicks in and I get stressed, not to mention my intestines need to rest every now and then. It's something my family has in a way, but it's interesting in that it facilitates fasting and makes it a sort of healthy thing to do in OUR case (not necessarily yours or anyone else's). And keeping from sugar is important too, and yes it helps a number of things for me... but these are all words that soaked in a long time ago.

How do people affect me? I get more than under the skin... I can make people on edge because every facet interests me. I tend to stare at people sometimes... drawing their face and body on a sketchpad in my mind... thinking of what they've done to get the scars, to build they're wrinkles, to make them pose in such fashions. I try to relate to anyone nearby and get on their "wavelength" though I'm not a natural at it (some people can just naturally fit right in with your life... some so beautifully that there is marriage... but some people are just talented that way and they can be very powerful).

In a way, staying around negative people makes me negative as well... but I haven't tried to avoid it frequently, because I tend to rub off on them more than they do me. That said, they certainly have a hard time dealing with themselves so many times.

To tie this back in with the topic and the theme at large... I still have a habit of getting to know people like they are in a separate dimension... it makes it easier for me to not get as contrived of a view as I normally would get. I try not to take people upon any senses... the best way to meet someone I always thought would be through thought... but I'm sure there are even limits there.

People are meant to be experienced... every last one of them. The question I pose here and as another intent at this forum is how might you do the same for someone else? How do you present a world from your view, make sure the people recieving this sensation know that, and that they can in turn gain from it? I hope to answer that before I die... and it's not like I don't have an answer, but that looking within others is a key role to testing and searching...

Some things I also thought would be good themes to try out here and other places:
Rule 1) Look without expecting to find anything
Rule 2) Find something and expect to have to find it again

137864Sep 30, 2005 11:58am
Thankyou.

When I look without expecting to find, what I find is magical, whatever it is.

I have been constantly finding and losing myself, I like it.
I woke up one morning and realised I'd forgotten
myself. I called out down the stairs to my mother
"I've forgotten who I am, who am I?"
Found myself by reading my diary/ideas book.


I too have found that I'm a positive influence on negative people,
my uncle put it in a good way "you have a positve impact on them, but they still affect you, if only temporarily"
The most important thing is not letting it be ok for them to be negative around you, tell people this when you first meet...
I've very grateful I know this one guy, any temper tantrums, mood swings or crappiness that I would be tempted to pull with someone else I would not consider doing with him...because I know that he knows who I am and won't accept any less of me.

When around him I can't feel unhappy, I'm normally very happy btw :-)


With my friend Ed who is going through a temporary negative period (the past 5 years of his life) I told him that he could talk to me about positive things, "I've had such a crappy morning, you'll never..."
me: I'd love to hear about what is going well for you in your life, if you want to talk about something constructive or neutral then I'd love to talk with you"

Then he cheers up, if I had listened to it...I have done before many times until I learned, he would have got deepr into his hole, it would have 'fed' him. I used to do the same, a long time ago before I became the man I am now, if I was listened to and pitied it was a reward.
Rewarding behaviour reinforces that behaviour.
People can change in a second, that negative guy that you've known for the past 30 years could suddenly give up victimising himself.
We are blessed with freewill.



A world from my view...I'll go and think on this for a few minutes then come back.
Right-since I know what my view of the world is (real or fantasy)
it only matters that I communicate it using elements that can be understood by others-if I wanted to communicate the beauty I saw in the magic of dream, and how much I am facinated by them I would
look at the emotion I felt when thinking of the concept and then think of what things would make other feel the same thing, for the richness of dreams I would put a lot of feeling into my work, if it's possible to do so, and expect that to come across.

I want to incorporate a lesson or way of growing yourself in every aspect of my worlds (books, games, anime films) and I want everyone that meets me to grow from the experience, to see who they are, and see the life that they want to live, then go and make it happen knowing that I will do whatever I can to help, even if I have just met them.


How did you answer that question?
By your answer I can see what they question is really asking...
funny how answers can say as much as a question.


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